The live in caregiver contract implemented by the Philippine Overseas Labor Office in Toronto was still being questioned by live-in caregiver applicant themselves who were directly affected by this new rule. They were asking the need for additional monetary obligations from employers when this same people are already helping them by giving them a chance to come to Canada and become Canadians in the future.
Even some are saying that only those caregivers whose employers are their relatives will be able to get through because the relative would be willing to shoulder the additional requirement which in reality is not supposed to be their burden but of the Philippine government.
I don’t understand the logic of Frank Luna in imposing this ruling. If he claims that he is a practicing lawyer in Canada, then he should know fully well how Canada protects its citizens and residents. Even illegals have protection from the police, the courts and from ordinary citizens as well.
Canada is not a perfect society because there are also instances of failure in court judgement and there are issues with law enforcement sometimes. But I would rather risk my rights here in Canada than in the Philippines where the rule of law belongs to the politicians, the military, judges, police, government officials and the people with money.
Mr. Luna, show some sign of concern to your countrymen and women. Don’t hinder their desire to give themselves and their family a better future which they would not otherwise find in the Philippines. Maawa ka sa mga kababayan mo. Basahin mo mga daing nila.
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what is the action of POLO if the employer doesnt want to sign the addendum?i guess the POLO will say, we reget to inform u but the Philippine Govt has a policy and the employer must comply to this..so, if the employer wont comply & just cancel the contract & get a caregiver from other countries or they’ll just get caregivers inside canada?can
the POLO give the filipino caregivers a new job?can they replace all the expenses incurred by the caregiver on the application of the visa?caregivers in canada are already protected by the canadian law..i hope the POLO will understand the situation of the caregivers..sponsoring a caregiver by a canadian employer is already a big help for filipino caregivers..asking them to sign the addendum is too much..addendum will only lessen the opportunity for filipino caregivers to get hired.
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Yes i agree that the addendum is just a hindrance for the filipino caregivers..caregivers in canada are already protected by the canadian law..the new policy of the POLO is just abig problem for the filipino caregivers..if the employer dont want to sign the addendum, why is the action of the POLO on this?convince the employer to sign?what if the employer still dont wanna sign & just replace the caregiver?the filipino caregiver cant do anything about this if their employer is not willing to agree with all the conditions in the addendum.
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Filipino ba si Mr. Frank Luna?bakit di yata sya concern sa mga filipino caregivers bound for canada?our visa has been approved, we have our plane ticket but we cannot get an exit clearance from the poea.the addendum is a big problem to us..our employer doesnt want to sign it because of the added expenses..can mr. luna give us a new employer who is willing to sign the addendum?or is he willing to replace all our expenses in the application of our visa if in case our employer didnt sign the addendum?he’ll start calculating our expenses from the caregiver training school, our daily allowances, visa application, speak test, medical, airfare..the addendum must be imposed before the employer applies for the LMO..so, if in case the employer wont agree to the addendum, the filipino caregiver can find another employer..but i doubt it, if ur employer is not related to u, they wont sign it..lucky for those cargeivers whose employers are their relatives..of course dugong filipino pa rin, they will sign it..para lang makapunta ng canada..the solution to this, suspend nalang yung addendum..canadian law is enough..caregivers are already protected by canadian law..
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from taiwan, nag apply ako sa canada. fortunately w/in 2mos. na isyuhan ako 3yrs working visa. gumastos ako ng more than 4k $US.I’m here in the Phils for 2 mos now, bcoz my employer refused to sign that paper. ibabalik kaya ni mr luna ang nagastos ko sakaling i cancel ng employer ang contract ko? maganda layunin nya, pero di maganda ang resulta.
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I came to Canada under the LCP twice. Both times I was fortunate enough to have found Canadian employers who, after much communication, and building relationship of trust, decided to trust me enough to hire me directly.
The hardest part for Filipinos who are hoping to come to Canada under the Live-in Caregiver Program is finding a Canadian employer willing to hire, sponsor and wait for them.
With this new LCP Contract, demanding Canadian employers to take more monetary obligations just to hire a Filipino live-in caregiver from the Philippines,who is a stranger to them, will be a huge discouragement and “turn-off” for the possible employers. Mr Frank Luna might have good intentions for the Filipino workers but this move is unrealistic, unproductive and down right foolish!
Disclaimer: The immigration article posted above does not substitute as a legal advice on immigration issues. If you need to consult a qualified professional about your case, you can visit a qualified immigration professional in your city or country. Use due diligence in doing so.
The new contract will DEFINITELY WONT help both sides..Canadian employers and the Filipino Caregivers..Most of the agencies here in Canada are not accepting caregiver applicants form the Philippines (except if you’re related or something) because of the LONG processing and waiting time. Canadian employers are hiring caregivers because they need it right away. They can’t afford to wait. What if they need someone to look over a cancer patient? The patient will probably die first before the caregiver can be granted visa to come to Canada. Ofcourse they’ll surely not wait for a caregiver in the Philippines for 2 yrs or so if they can have it from other country for only 2 to 3 months?For that matter alone, it gives so much trouble to Filipino caregivers to find Canadian employers much more if they implement this new contract. Please, don’t do this. You’re NOT helping Filipino Caregivers, you’re pulling them DOWN.
what can we do? if the backlash on this issue is as strong as what happened to POEA CF-04, then maybe Luna and the POEA will listen. As there’s not to many who’s complaining they can just look the other way and ignore it. They’re just fooling the Filipinos in the Philippines when they broadcast there that there’s so many jobs in Canada for Philippine nationals but then they make it hard for a Philippine based worker to come here. What’s new?
I went to Malaysia in 1992 and was very much eager to go to Canada to work as a live -in Caregiver but Malaysia was not accepting aplications there and it has to be done in Singapore, I heard that Hong Kong is doing faster so I decided to move to Hong Kong after 5 years in Malaysia then I enjoyed my life in Hong Kong for 8 years then my thoughts of my original plan why I moved to Hong Kong came back( that is to move to Canada) so I applied through an agency and was hired quickly. The family who hired me made it sure that I should be in Canada when the school year opens and it happened. They waited for 5 months for me.
My point here is Canadian embassies abroad has their own procedure I do not see any reason why every applicants from the Philippines complain of the long waiting period and I do not see why the employers who decided to hire caregivers in Philippines should be complaining here about the processing period, the canadian immigration did there best to make sure that the immigration procedure is simple and SEE THROUGH to everybody, with respect to their country of origin. An employer who hires a caregiver who is recommended by a nanny friend already in Canada to avoid spending money for the agency fee turns her back and complain for the long waiting????? Come on…….have you not read on the website????? or were you waiting for a big favor from the immigration? a magic that they will ignore their procedure and let your caregiver fly as fast as possible like you wish? Be practical Canadian, we Filipinos always look up on you as better citizens. I hate to say this but, nobody is forbidden to look at the immigration procedure in hiring a caregiver from abroad. To all Canadian employers, read and trust the canadian immigration website and Do not let yourself be fooled and be used by any one who only thinks of entering CANADA BY ALL THEIR MEANS! For caregivers applying from the Philippines to Canada, Please be fair enough and take the consequences of your decission in applying job to Canada from the Philippines, easiest way………go to immigration/live-in caregiver.ca click countries of origin, like Taiwan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, singapore instead of mounting your butt in Philippines and complain for the LONG WAIT!
fi, recently immigrant to canada and sponsor by spouse. now i want to sponsor my sisters and brothers . They all are above 18 years. what would
be the procedure to sponsor these people It is also to inform that i am residing in Calgary, AB.
I, recently immigrant to canada and sponsor by spouse. now i want to sponsor my sisters and brothers . They all are above 18 years. what would
be the procedure to sponsor these people It is also to inform that i am residing in Calgary, AB.
hi i know this is out of the topic but just wanna ask, im a live in caregiver here in canada for 6 months and was planning to go to the philippines this dec for a vacation, how long am i allowed to stay in the philippines? what are the requirements that i nid to submit or do to be able for me to come back in canada? can i stay in the philippines for 3 months? ( my employer allowed me to, but im not sure if this is legal based on immigration laws..)
@adrick chan – you will need a re-entry permit from either hrsdc or immigration canada. it’s best that you phone them regarding their requirement.
im a live in caregiver for 1yr.&2months here n canada. i would like to ask or need clarification about re entry issue. my employer will bring me to the U.S this coming aug.2009 for vacation. do i need a re enrty for this & where? i already have u.s tourist visa issued on april 9,2009 & will expire 2010
your reply will be greatly appriciated.
thank you so much
joy
I have a question regarding the alleged changed of Immigration policy for future Live-in caregivers that they their status will be treated as an overeas contract workers. That they won’t be allowed anymore to apply for permanent residents after working 24 straight months from one employer. Anyone here knows about this issue? Your input is highly appreciated. Thank you very much.
Hi! I just wanna ask if what possibble MONTH and what YEAR they gonna start to implement the hear say issue about the immigration policy for Live-in Caregivers that they won’t be able to apply anymore the permanent residents even thou they completed or finished 24 months working from an employer? I’m terribly worried coz I came here in Canada as a Live-in Caregiver on the year 2007 and hopefully I gonna apply my open visa and permanent residents on this comming months. Do I need to worry about it? Your insights or opinions for this matter is highly appreciated. Thank you very much and more power.
@ white girlie and patricia – i don’t think there’s any ruling like what you’re asking coming from immigration canada. i’m not sure but that’s what i know. i saw an article about that written by a canadian lawyer and you can read it at this link. hope that helps.
hi admin,
i just want to ask if im going to have vacation this december 2009 in the philippines only 2weeks or 1mos.and just 7mos.here in canada as nanny.would this vacation affect the counting of 24mos.before applying for residency here in canada.or having vacation to the origin country as not yet a immigrant here in canada would affect the months or years requirements for the immigrant?please reply in my email.thank you
how canadian temporary nanny apply for re-entery minister permit of canada.she wants to visit india 3 weeks. and how long process of re-entery.she wants to go in november and what is fee.pls tell me as soon as possible.thanks
hi, as a live in caregiver after 1 yr of sevice we have 2 weeks right, i jz wanna ask if my employer will pay me for that if i get this vacation?And are they still going to pay me for whole month if i get this vacatio?
please confirm if the caregiver who enter year 2010 in Canada are not anymore qualified to apply for permanent residence after the required 2- 3 years of working Caregiver?
IT IS NOT TRUE that caregivers who enter CAnada in 2010 can’t apply for PR.. It’s TOTALLY UNTRUE! there have never been an amendment such as that done on the Live-in Caregiver Program (LCP) nor will there be in the near future. Call the CIC yourselves to find out. DO NOT listen to any baseless word of mouth! I am a placement agent and I am contact the CIC once in a while.
If you go for a vacation and you’re still an OFW, you have to make sure that your work permit is still valid, you have a valid re-entry visa and you need to ask your employer/s to write a letter stating that you are employed with them and you are expected to come back and work for them. Write the important dates.
You are given 10 days paid vacation per year (14 including days off). If you go more than that. do not expect the employer to pay you unless he/she agreed to. If you’re going for a 2-month vacation, that is doable but only 2 weeks is paid. Make sure that your employer is taking you back ‘coz if not, you are pooched!
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Going out of Canada when you are on the LCP wouldn’t affect the 24 month counting as long as you get paid and remit your obligations to the Canada Revenue Agency. When you apply for PR, the CIC requires you to submit a copy of your tax returns in the past 2 yrs. They will base the counting of the 24-month full time employment from it.
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Yeah, I agree with all the comments regarding the new CONTRACT ADDENDUM. It will not help us but it will make us suffer more. As if you sold us to the employers. We should study the advantages and disadvantages before implementing it. Not all are bad employers. We should not be thinking of ourselves only but also the side of the employer.
Thank you very much and hope the concerned people will evaluate this again.
hi as far as i know there is no changes about what you asking about.those changes that i know are the ff.there no more second medical.they make the 3yrs to 4yrs to complete your 24months.or you can apply your open permit aslong as you already finished 3900hours of work.it has been approved but not yet implemented,and its gonna apply to anyone whos been already here or any one who will enter canada,mga live in caregiver let us move..para satin to let us push the imigration to implement them anung silbi ng changes dinaman implemented….mgkaisa tayu magkaisa tayu …
yes abolished Polo…iam here in canada for 3 years now and waiting for permanent residency…iam a direct hire from the philippines and i know how long the processing in the philippines. canadian law really protect the caregivers and i strongly believe we dont need additional burden for coming here in canada because employer doesnt like additional expense too…what do you think mr luna? canadian employers are rich? nope they are not they as well live a simple life.they like filipino caregivers but right now due to long processing and not to mention other countries like mexico are now coming to canada as caregivers…think think think …help kapwa pinoys if wala kau maibigay na trabaho
i just want to take a vacation for 5weeks in the Philippines,my visa is multiple for 3yrs, i work as a caregiver for 10months here in Canada,do i need to get again a re entry visa,or what do i need,i waiting for your reply.thank you.
just wonderin, im a registered nurse with no experience in the philippines, i want to work in canada as a live in care giver, i already have an employer which is my friend. they told me that it is easier if im in singapore. do i need a care giver certificate to apply? or i just need to go to singapore or hongkong and find a job as a care giver there to have an experience so that i can be a live-in care giver in canada? please help me.
What to do if the Canadian embassy refused my application. Almost 2 years ako naghintay paying US3500 dollars then after speak test refused mga documents
Ano kailangan q gawin?
This POLO addendum is really a burden to us. It took 3 years for my friend to have her visa and CAQ ( cetificat d’acceptation du Quebec). Just when she scheduled her PDOS, she was told about the addendum which her employer refused to sign. Worst is, she has already purchased a ticket for this Friday to come here to Canada….so what is she suppose to do?? any ideas??
I came to Canada 6 years ago and I can guarantee that we are much protected by the Canadian government and we are also provided with labor codes to protect us so I don’t know why the addendum is necessary….What should my friend do?
@mi on April 28, 2010
…I applied as a domestic helper for Hongkong without a caregiver certificate…
if you have 10 to 12 months work experience as a domestic helper then you can apply as a caregiver for Canada. Basing on my experience when i applied coming here to Canada, the processing of my papers was 5 months…GOODLUCK to you…
mi,,to answer your question…yes you can go to Singapore or Hongkong or anywhere and work as a Caregiver for at least 10 months minimum then you can apply for canada.You don’t need a Caregiver course in addition you are a nurse in profession…thats mostly a mistake of some Filipino ladies taking that courses which is thier nursing degree are already more than enough.Only what you need is your actual job related to your job that you are applying in Canada.All the Best.
LIC Program:The new Changes last April 1, 2010 does not help to everybody especially the Filipino caregivers who are in Big Demand in Canada. Canadian employers are also been affected because of the EXPENSES…without Employers who will give a Job Offer No Caregivers are Coming…in…I hope Immigration Law makers will do something to changes to be Fair to everyone./Merlyn
Dear Admin or whoever that knows the answer to my questions,
I am looking for a filipino live-in caregiver before I go back to work from my mat leave April 2011. I am looking for a caregiver myself instead of going thru an agency.
My question is, this additional contract from POLO – does it ONLY apply to filipino nannies leaving the Philippines? Or does it apply to ALL philipino nannies leaving all countries such as Hong Kong or Taiwan? I heard about the long wait, and one nanny that I contacted in Manila actually told me only workers applied by placement agencies are subject to long wait and the additional POLO contract. She said the wait and contract do not applied to direct hires from Philippines. Is this true?
@ tea – yes this applies to all caregivers coming from the Philippines ONLY – whether they are from an agency or direct hire.
I submitted my application as a livein caregiver in Canada and received my letter of acknowledgment last week (January 12, 2011). How true that I need to wait for 12-18 months prior issuance of visa hopefully? My contract indicated that if possible I can start working effective March 2011. My employer tries to expedite it the soonest since my help is badly needed to take care of my patient. I heard that there are some who were granted pretty quickly. Please enlighten me on this regard.
Many thanks and I would truly appreciate your help.
To all asking about holidays, please remember that your room and board is also a binding area to think about: unless the employer has agreed otherwise, you have to keep paying the R&B during your holiday in the Philippines. It is so that your employer can keep your room (to which you have a right under the Caregiver program, and cannot rent it out to anyone else, or let friends or family stay in it while you’re gone)
Just as when you live in Canada permanently, you will have to plan ahead and keep paying your rent, mortgage etc. Also include your loss of income in the calculation as to whether you can afford this holiday or not. A holiday is not only the flight, but time spent not earning, not saving, bills that still have to be paid and spending money (including what your family will be begging you for while you’re visiting them).
Also be very aware that during the two years working as a live in caregiver, with low room and board costs set by the government, will be the time to save the most money. Later when you’re on your own, working two or three jobs, your savings will be a lot lower, because your cost of living including your income tax and other deductions and bills will be a lot higher.
WHAT IS THIS ADDENDUM FOR CAREGIVERS? IS IT READY FORM FROM POLO THAT I HAVE TO SIGN OR SHOULD I MAKE ONE? THIS IS NON-SENSE…MY CAREGIVER GOT A VISA AND SHE IS ASKING ME ABOUT THIS…WHY CAN’T SHE JUST FLY FROM HONGKONG OR SINGAPORE THEN TO ESCAPE THIS PDOS?
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the thing is bakit sa ibang country mabilis ang processing at walang additional requirements na addendum- kawawa naman yung mga kababayan natin sa pinas na gustong magpunta ng CANADA pero the hindrance is the ADDENDUM- kaya walang nangyayari sa pinas imbes na tulungan ang mga mamamayan lalo pang pinahihirapan
im here now in Taiwan taipe as a caretaker. pls help me were do i have to go to apply as a caretaker or live in caregiver going to Canada. pls is there sombody who can help and tell me were to go here in taipe. Thanks so much…
and also if someone already try to apply here in taipe going to canada as a caregiver or caretaker or live in caregiver pls. i just want to know thier requirments. going to canada pls pls pls thank you so much
hmm…
Yes, I agree that this is another burden for prospective caregiver employers in Canada. Obviously, our government don’t know what they are doing. Stupid…I hope this addendum will be voted out.
really need your help!how can i tell to my employer that she needs to follow the employment contract of nanny.i worked more than 8 hrs a day and she would never pay the over time.Every time she paid my salary she didnt give me a pay slip,which is stated their how many hours i work per week or a month.And i have no privacy in this family.i ask an advice to my agency but they ignore me.does immigration ask the pay slip as one of requirments for applying the PR? Is it posible that my employer terminate me if i told her that she needs to follow the contract as my employer?please give me a clear advise thanks and god bless us all!
Hi! I just want to confirm if i can go home for a visit next year on january 2012. My concern is, I already passed my PR application last July and they asked me to stay here in Canada while waiting for my PR to be approved. I was okay with that til they changed the processing time to 32-34 mos. Yes, the caregivers here will have to wait another 2 and a half years to actually get their PR.. :( I don’t know why they did this. I think it’s very unfair. Anyway, I really want to go home for a month and see my dad. But, I don’t want to risk going home as I might not be able to come back. My working permit and multiple-entry visa won’t be expired til April 2012. Thank you. I’m really looking forward for your reply. :) It will be much appreciated!
hi im here in canada for 8 mos.as a live in caregiver but my problem is i want to go on vacation as soon as posible.because my father is so sick so what can i do i have no re entry visa rigth now
my work permit is until 2015 can i get re entry visa in the philippines pls reply thanks
Charo, you should contact Immigration or Services Canada to inquire about your situation. You should have a re-entry visa before you leave.
Hi I m live in caregiver in Canada from last 2 years and 10 months and I have already applied for P.R now I want to go for vacation to my backhome so I just want to that whats the maximum period for vacation. And can I get married there or no. Please give me an answer thanks.
Hi There,
I am planning to spend my vacation this coming March 2012.I am a caregiver here in Canada .Anybody from this site experience in going back here in Canada from Philippines.What are the requierements from the POEA to the immigration .Thanks ..
Hi, anybody can tell me how long do I have to wait for my visa? I had my medical last August 16, 2011 but until now, I haven’t heard anything yet from the Canada Embassy. Please tell me of your experiences about waiting for a visa. How long does this really takes place?
Thank you for replying this letter and giving me peace of mind….
hi im here in paris working and planning to work in canada as nanny i have an employer and they will process my papers here in paris but my question is, is it ok if instead of direct to paris to canada is it ok to take a 2wks off to philippines im worried that maybe the immigration in the phils. will hold me because of that POLO issue please i need your answer thanks
I worked as a domestic helper in hongkong for 8 months,that was january 2010-september 2010. My problem now is that I submitted my LCP aplication to the canadian embassy here in the Philippines w/ out including to submit my hongkong police clearance. Do I really need to submit one? Can I just send it even if the embassy didnt notify me to do so? It really bothers me..I dont want to get denied again…I need your help..
(Im sorry I knew that Im out of the topic but I dont know a site where I can ask my problem) Thanks once again and regards to all LCP applicants like me..hoping that we can make it w/ God’s mercy…
i kn0w im out of topic. I am here in HK now working as a DH, just 7m0nths stay here. I want to know if it is okey, my plan I apply here in HK going to canada as care giver then after I get hire I go back to Phillipines wait my Visa. It is possible happen the agency can that process way? How many months I should wait?
Help please.
Im quadriplegic n Im looking for a caregiver,Where do I start?